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Wednesday, 23 May 2012

Re: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Re: Sabi Mir, Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah

 

Ab apko saboot chaheay to perhna shuru karain. Bismillah

From: Imran Rana <reehabimran@yahoo.com>
To: "Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com" <Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Re: Sabi Mir, Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
 
nice reply agreed

From: HASHIM ATTARI <hashimattari@hotmail.com>
To: yaadein_meri@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Re: Sabi Mir, Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
 
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To: Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.comFrom: innocentgal_7@yahoo.comDate: Wed, 23 May 2012 00:23:22 +0300Subject: Re: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Re: Sabi Mir, Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah 
Jb hamary pyaray nabi ny keh diya hy k surah fatiha k bagair namaz complete ni hy to kisi ulma ki baat q sunyn hum, or wesy b ajj kal jo ulma hyn sirf naam k hyn. Or abb jo apko theekh lgta hy wo kryn, hamara farz tha smjhana, apki marzi amal kryn ya nahi.Sent from my iPad32 3G

On May 22, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Farrukh Abidi <farrukhabidi@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Assalaamu alaikum

Ye hi baat tou main pooch raha houn ke aap ko kesay pataa ke right way to pray is to
recite Surah Fatiha behind iman.

Jabke aapko fiqa and stuff nahin aata??

Aamir Aleem se pehlay bohout barhay barhay ulama likh chukay hain ke imam ke peechhay
sura fatiha parhnay ki zaroorat nain hai.

Tou ab main Brother Aamir Aleem ki baat manoun ya ulama ki??????????

Farrukh Abidi

--- On Tue, 5/22/12, Sabi S <innocentgal_7@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sabi S <innocentgal_7@yahoo.com>
To: "Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com" <Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Sabi Mir, Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
 
Walikum as salam 
Look i am not giving any fatwa, i am not saying they are not muslims who dnt recite Surah Fatiha. Only ALLAH knows who is Muslim who z not. I am just saying the right way to pray is to recite Surah Fatiha behind iman and when U r praying alone. And i think apny Amer Aleem ki mail nahi read ki 

ALLAH'S RESPONSE TO THE BELIEVERS............

 isko read kryn gy to apko khud jawab mil jy ga.
Sent from my iPad32 3G
On May 22, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Farrukh Abidi <farrukhabidi@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Assalamu alaikum
 
If you don't know any fiqa and stuff then why are you giving fatwa ke fatiha ke baghair
numaaz nahin hoti????
 
Do you think your knowledge is more than those who know fiqa and stuff???????
You know are a Muslim but do you think those who say don't recite sure fatiha
while you are in jamaat, do you not considered Muslims???? even they know fiqa
and stuff???
 
Farrukh Abidi
--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Sabi Mir <innocentgal_7@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Sabi Mir <innocentgal_7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
To: "Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com" <Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, May 21, 2012, 6:33 AM

 
Dekhyn asay galat info ni dyni chai hy.surah Fatiha k bagair namaz complete ni hoti.I dnt knw about any fiqa and stuff. I knw i am a Muslim nd Muslim should recite Surah Fatiha in every rakah, even when he is pyaring behind imam or alone.Sent from my iPad32 3G
On May 21, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Mian Faiz <mfaiz_chishti1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Ager app alag namaz perh rahay hain to phir apko surrah fateh perhni hogi. Imam ki iqtada main jo imam ki kirat he wohi muqtadi ki whannahin perhna.
From: Zaheer Bawany <bawanyzaheer@yahoo.com>
To: Syed Rahim <rahimsa@yahoo.com>; Simple-Islam Yahoo Groups <simple-islam@yahoogroups.com>; Yaadein_Meri Yahoo Groups <yaadein_meri@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:24 AM
Subject: [Yaadein_Meri] Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
 


--- On Sat, 5/19/12, Syed Rahim <rahimsa@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Syed Rahim <rahimsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
To: "bawanyzaheer" <bawanyzaheer@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, May 19, 2012, 12:52 AM

As received in message
From: bawanyzaheer <bawanyzaheer@yahoo.com>
To: Syed Rahim <rahimsa@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: Message not approved: Fatih Recitation in Salah
> > > > Recitation of Fatiha in Salah > By Mufti Shafiq Jakhura (Darul Ihsan Centre) > >   > ________________________________ > > Q. > I follow Imam Abu Hanifa. When I pray fard salah behind any imam I do not recite surah Fatiha, but my friends who follow other imams do. They told me one hadith of Prophet Muhammed  said "One who does not recite surah Fatiha his salah is incomplete". So please tell me why we don’t recite surah Fatiha. > > ________________________________ > > A. The difference of opinion that is found among the imams of Fiqh is based upon, among other things, a difference in the principles that each of the imam's have in deducing rulings from the sources of Sharia. Similarly the method of interpretation of a hadith results in different rulings being deduced. This is not objectionable and such differences in interpretation of the words of Rasulullah  even existed among the Companions (R.A.) which were not objected to by Rasulullah . > With regards to the Fatiha in salah, whereas there is a hadith that states that the salah of a person who does not recite surah Fatiha in his salah is invalid, there is also another hadith that states that when a person performs his prayer behind an imam then the recitation of surah Fatiha of the imam is sufficient for him. The Hanafi scholars rule that a follower should not recite surah Fatiha based on the latter hadith and other similar verses or narrations that indicate towards this. The difference of opinion that exists with regards to raising one’s hands before ruku is also based on similar narrations that are found in the books of hadith. > In a nut shell, each of the four schools has the proofs of their rulings and we should follow the school of fiqh that we belong to, without engaging in debates about these matters with those of a different school. > And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
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