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Wednesday 17 August 2011

[Yaadein_Meri] Re: Science changes Islam not

 


Dear All, The word and term 'science' is described by the Oxford Dictionary as: 'branch of knowledge involving systemized observations and experiments'.  The Glorious Quran is described by Allah Subhanah as:
 
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 2 Surah Baqarah verse 185:
Ramadan is the month in which the Quran was sent down: this Book is a Perfect Guidance for mankind and consists of clear Teachings which show the  Right Way , and are a Criterion of the Truth and falsehood.
 
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 16 Surah Nahl verse 89:
We have sent down to you this Book, which makes everything plain,  and is a guidance, blessing and good news to those who have surrendered themselves entirely.
 
Allah says in the Holy Quran Chapter 18 Surah Kahf verse 1-3:
All praise is for Allah Alone,  Who has sent down this Book to His Servant (Mohamed (saws), and assigned nothing crooked to it.   This Book says everything directly,  so that he may warn the people of the severe chastisement of Allah and give good news to the believers,  who do righteous deeds,  that they will have an excellent reward.
 
In other words 'science' is the knowledge that man gains from his observations, experiments, and experience of the things and objects in creation….and the Glorious Quran on the other hand is the Message revealed for the guidance of all mankind from the One Who created everything in existence!
 
Although the Quran may contain some knowledge which man confirms through his observation and study (like the creation and formation in the wombs, or the concept of rain, or that everything was created from water, etc.), that is not the purpose of its revelation!  The purpose of the revelation of the Glorious Quran is mainly to answer those questions of man which cannot be learnt by experience or experimented in the laboratory….but questions which require answers nonetheless and the guidance of which can only be from the One Who is the All-Knowing, All-Wise Creator and Sustainer of the Worlds!
 
Questions like: Is there a Creator? Who exactly is this Creator? What is His purpose of creation? What are His Rights towards His creation and vice versa? Is there a life after death? What will happen in the Hereafter? What is the best and purest way to live one's life? What should the perfect relationships and rights be between a nation to another, between man and man, between adult and child, between master and slave, between husband and wife, between parent and child, between rich and poor, between the rulers and the ruled, etc.?   What exactly is righteousness, morality, honesty, justice, patience, sacrifice, etc.? 
 
These questions which can never ever be answered through man's limited observations and experiments are the ones that are addressed in depth and in perfection by the One Who Created everything and possesses the Absolute and Perfect Knowledge of everything in existence.
 
Allah Subhanah did not reveal His Message and send His Messengers to teach man the things which he can learn from his experience and observations and experiments….these things were left to man to develop as and when their necessity arose! 
 
Thus the knowledge that we recognize or call as 'science' is no more than the observation, experience, and experiments man has made through time of the things and products created by the Creator!  And the Quran is the Knowledge revealed by that same Creator to teach man what he neither knows, nor has the capacity to know! 
 
In the same context, one must be able to differentiate between 'theory' and 'scientific fact'….. a 'theory' (Darwin's Theory, Big-Bang Theory, Newton's Theory, Theory of relativity, etc.) is a study of man based on some assumptions made by him and as the assumptions are proved true or false, so is its theory; whereas a 'scientific fact' (the process of transformation in the womb, the process of evaporation and rainfall, the process of the growth of plants and animals, etc.) is knowledge which man through his observation and experiments has confirmed as a fact and cannot be changed or altered!  
 
The guidance of the Quran may or may not agree with every man-made 'theory' simply because the assumption upon which the 'theory' is based might be incorrect, but never ever will the Quran disagree or go against a 'scientific fact'!  Such is the level of Truth and Perfection of the Verses and Guidance of the Glorious Quran!
 
An avid reader and student of the Quran cannot be but humiliated at the thought that man, after thousands and thousands of years of study, observations, experiments, research and with access to billions and billions of dollars and the absolute best technology and computers many a times comes to a conclusion and declares a thing as 'scientific fact' only to find that the same 'scientific fact' has been related almost 1400+ years ago by an illiterate-desert shepherd-Arab named Mohamed ibn Abdullah (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) of Makkah in the Glorious Quran, which he (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) received by inspiration from the Lord Who Created everything in existence; and it is in him (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and his Lord in whom the believers have professed unconditional belief!
 
Your Well Wisher,


From: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net>


That's right. All Scinces keep changing all the time.
Law of Movement, Gravity, Construction of Buildings, Aerodynamics, Electricity, Air Waves, Locomotive Engineering, Combustion, Nuclear Physics etc keep changing everyday.
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EXAMPLES:

* Yesterday, Moving Objects used to slow down because of Resistance of Air, now they don't. They fly clear on Internet.
* Yesterday, you needed Foundation and Beams for building a structure, now you don't, just like Kaukab's Home.
* All Aerodynamics Laws have changed and now even Kaukab can fly.
* Electricity used to be Resistance multiplied by Current, now no more because Science had missed Pakistan Invented Load Shedding Factor in Pakistan.
* Air Waves Law has changed and now ISI can not find, where from Talibani Radio Stations are broadcasting.
* Locomotives do not run of any old laws. They just go by themselves just like Kaukab goes to Mosques.
* Car Engines do not run on any laws of Combustion. Allah is making them run on a Prayer only.
* Nuclear Physics Laws are not needed anymore because Pakistan has built Nuclear Bombs on a Magic of a 'Wzeefaa'.
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How can we trust always changing Science?
Allah had never said, Science was importance or anything we should ever pay any attention too in Qoraan, right?
When honorable Kaukab Siddique has even earned a Ph.D. on this Thesis, who are we illiterate, ignorant, low IQ people to argue with him? 
Kaukab Siddique ZinDaabaaD ...!


From: Kaukab Siddique <butshikana@gmail.com>


The Pervezi chaudhery left out the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of understanding the Qur'an. The Prophet's Hadith is the key to understanding the Qur'an. Without the Prophet, pbuh, there is no Islam.
 
Islam does not take science as a criterion. Science changes. Islam is eternal.
 
I could go on but this is enough to show that the pervezis are lost in UNBELIEF and NIFAQ.
 
Sincerely
Kaukab Siddique
 
NB. I  like to remind pervezis that I have  more education than any of them, not because I am proud of my PhD but because these shameless people made fun of Br. Aijaz for not having a degree. These fitnagars hate the Muslim masses who do not have western education. So I stick it to them with my PhD.
 
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Muhammad Latif Chaudhery <latif.m.chaudhery@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Brother Khshaikh Sahib.
Assalam Alaikum
Who am I to correct my seniors? I am a student myself.
As to the translation of Dr. Shabbir Ahmed, please be apprised that Tafheem, Mafhoom , exposition  or explanation of Quran is always a bit different to verbatim translation of Quran. I have seen his translation. He always cross reference the contents where he resort to Tasrref-e-Ayat.
 
Though out of context, please allow me to add here that  Quran has given us certain rules for interpreting the meanings of Quran which are listed below:
1.Though the principle of distinction between straightforward and metaphorical language. (Quran, 3:7)
2. The principle of unity of the Quran's contents, meaning that its verses are not contradictory, but in perfect harmony. (4:82)
3. The congruence of Quranic teachings with truth and logic, establishing the principle of truth, and its congruence with science and right reason. (41:41-42; 42:24; 23:70-71; 8:7-8; 17:81; 10:100)
4. The principle of self-explanation, i.e. that Quranic verses explain one another. (55:1-2; 75:18-19)
5. The principle of good intention, i.e. that the Quran cannot be comprehended by anyone who approaches it with bad intention. (41:44; 56:77-79; 17-45-46)
6. The principle of topical context, i.e. that the meaning of any verse or verses must be understood in the context of the topic under discussion. (17:58; 53:3-4; 59:7)
7. The principle of historical context, i.e. that verses relating to a particular historical condition must be interpreted in the light of that condition. (4:25, 92; 4:3)
8. The principle of easy practicability, i.e. that the teachings of the Quran are meant to facilitate and not to render things difficult for mankind. (22:78; 20:2; 5:6, 101-102; 4:28)
9. The principle of distinction between principle and methodology and putting principle above methodology. (22:67; 2:67-71)
Any attempt to interpret Quran in any other way can be misleading.
With best wishes.
Muhammad Latif Chaudhery
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Asan Deen
To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Hadithi Mushriks go to Hell / Kaukab to answer

Salam:
Mohtaram Latif Chaudhery Sb.,
I am also expecting from you knowledgeable sharing comments on my mail sent to Dr. Shabbir, and as to how he is playing with Quran and make translation in total corruption. What do you say about his translation and my clarification??
Thanks and regards
KhShaikh

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Muhammad Latif Chaudhery <latif.m.chaudhery@gmail.com> wrote:
Please see the language of a person who never forget to write  Ph.D. with his name.
May Allah save Islam of its foolish friends.
Muhammad Latif Chaudhery
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Mr. Kaukab Siddique Ph.D wrote.
Thank you.
Looks like you caught Shabbir of Florida with his pants down.
 
He is a notorious fabricator and liar.
 
Enemy of Hadithe Muhammad, pbuh, is bound to be enemy of the Qur'an.
 
May Allah bless you for defeating this Florida trash who attacks Islam as a full time job.
He is no Shabbir. He is Yazeed.
 
Sincerely
Kaukab Siddique, PhD






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