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[Yaadein_Meri] Re: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)

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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)

جی میں تیار ہوں کہ آپ مجھے "بدعت" کے بارے میں قرآن مجید کے حوالے سے معلومات فراہم فرمایں، آپ مجھے انشاءاللہ قرآن کی ہر ہر بات کو قبول کرنے والا ہی پائینگے۔ میں منتظر ہوں


 مومن نہ قبر پرست ہوتا ہے نہ اکابر پرست۔ قبر پرستی اور اکابر پرستی شرک ہے
 
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Subject: Re: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 22:53:52 +0500

Bidat kia he isko Quran Majeed ke hawalay se samjhatay hain ager samjh he to samjhnay ki koshish karain.
 
میں نے اپنی سی کوشش کرلی اگر آٌپ پھر بھی نہیں بتانا چاہتے تو آپکی مرضی، جو جناب کی مرضی


مومن نہ قبر پرست ہوتا ہے نہ اکابر پرست۔ قبر پرستی اور اکابر پرستی شرک ہے
 
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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:20:11 +0500

Kya Aap ka yeh jumla bad gumani nahee???? mere kisi baat per tarze amal acha nahee laga to sab ko elzam lagadiya.......
و طرز عمل ہے جو مقلدین اختیار کرتے ہی 
 
Dusri baat yeh he k main ne aap se koee suwal pucha he nahee . maira mutaleba Mr. Naveed se tha  aap mujhe to elzam de rahe hain mager apne sathi naveed ko ab tak kuch nahee kaha????? aap puchen n us se jab who galat post kerta he musalmano per jhoote elzam lagata he AYAT ka galat istemal  aur hadis main apni taraf se ezafa kerta he to us k paas time he aur jab us ka AYAT O ahadis se jawab daiker hata k uski apni post se jawab daiker pucha jata he to koee jawab nahee milta   is ka matlab yeh shakh KAZZAB O MUNAFIQ HE aur aap hain k uski tarafdari main itne age berh gai k usko to kuch nahee kaha mujh per baras rahe hain   are in maano main aap se beheter to aap ka salfi sath ASAN DEEN he jis ne Naveed ki galati tasleem ki
 
Aik taraf aap keh rahe hain main aap ki mail perh raha hoon aur dusri taraf yaktarfa sirf mujhe.... ager koee acha kirdar ada kerna he to naveed ko to samne lain us se jawab chahiyeh.....

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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:20:21 +0500

یہ آپ کی بدگمانی ہے کہ وہ مجھے جواب دینے کے لئے فرمارہے ہیں، نہیں ہرگز نہیں بلکہ میں نے تو آپ کی میل پڑھ کر آپ سے معلوم کیا ہے کہ شاید میں جناب کے سوالوں کے جوابات دے سکوں، لیکن آپ خود ہی دیکھ لیں کہ آپ صرف سوال بھیجنے میں کتنی لیت و لال سے کام لے رہے ہیں اور کیا یہ رویہ کسی تعلیم یافتہ کا ہو سکتا ہے،  اگر اپ نے سوالوں کے جوابات لینے ہیں تو سوال بتائیں اور اگر نہیں لینے تو منع فرمادیں کہ میں نے نہیں لینے، خامہخواں طول دینے کا کیا فائدہ ہے، بے فائدہ حجت کا کوئی بھی فائدہ نہ ہوگا، یہی و طرز عمل ہے جو مقلدین اختیار کرتے ہیں ۔۔


مومن نہ قبر پرست ہوتا ہے نہ اکابر پرست۔ قبر پرستی اور اکابر پرستی شرک ہے
 
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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:35:03 +0500

ASAN DEEN NAME K AHLE HADIS NE BHEE YAHEE KAHA THA AAP BHEE YAHI AKHIR IS NAVEED KO Q KUCH NAHEE KEHTE AKHIR TUM LOGO HI KA SATHI HE....
 
2NDLY
BIDAT, SHIRK, WAGERA K BARE MAIN AUR DEGAR POST NAVEED NE SEND KI THE USI KO REPLY KYA HE TO WAHEE JAWAB Q NAHEE DAITA KYA ITNA ELM NAHEE SIRF CHAND AYAT O AHADIS YAAD KER K BAR AALIM BAN GAY AUR JAB GARIFT KI TO JAWAB NAHEE ...... AKHIR WOH KHUD Q JAWAB NAHEE DE RAHA AUR TUM LOG Q THEKA LE RAHE HO.... KYA YE REPAID PLANNING TO NAHEE TUM SALFI LOGO KI.

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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:25:09 +0500

اگر جناب ہی بتادیں تو کیا ہرج ہے، میں تو جناب کی ہر بات کا انشاءاللہ جواب دینے کے لئے تیار ہوں، آگے جناب کی مرضی


مومن نہ قبر پرست ہوتا ہے نہ اکابر پرست۔ قبر پرستی اور اکابر پرستی شرک ہے
 
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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:04:20 +0500

Yeh Salfi aur name k ahle hadis naveed se puch lan usko sab post kya he jis ka usne abhi tak jawab nahee dya

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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:20:29 +0500

جناب ھاشم صاحب ! برائے مہربانی مجھے بتائیں اپکو کس بات کا جواب چاہئے انشاءاللہ میں کوشش کرونگا کہ توحید،شرک اور سنت و بدعت پر آپ کو ہر طرح مطمعن کر سکوں، شکریہ


مومن نہ قبر پرست ہوتا ہے نہ اکابر پرست۔ قبر پرستی اور اکابر پرستی شرک ہے
 
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Subject: RE: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:16:33 +0500

Who is escaping and who is not replying check your record.... You are personally witness that your PETI SATHI MR. NAVEED BHAGORA ne ab tak maire kisi mail ka jawab nahee dya gustakhi kiye ja raha he mager jab dalil dee AYATE QURANI O HADIS PESH KI TO BHAG GAYA.... Yeh he tum logo ka kirdar.... 
 
DUSRO KO BIDATI AUR GUMRAH KAHO TUM LOG BIDAT KARO TO DURUST
QURANE PAAK KI AYAT KA GALAT TARJUMA KARO AUR AYAT K SHANE NUZUL TAK KO APNI TARAF SE BADAL DO PHIR BHEE KAHO K HAQ PER HO
WOH AYAT O AHADIS JO BUTO K BARE MAIN HE WOH NABI O AWLIYA PER PASTE KARO AUR KAHO K BA ADAB HO???????? JHOTO PER ALLAH KI LAANAT
 
PEHLE APNE NAVEED KO TO BILL SE NIKALO K MERE MAIL KA JAWAB DE PHIR AGE BAAT KERNA. TUM SE BHI NIBATNA KOEE MUSHKIL NAHEE K AIK HE THAILI K HO......

Subject: Re: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
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From: asadshaikh47@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 18:56:43 +0000

Asan deen

All the Alhe sunnat jamat is one and InshAllah their will enter Jannat there are only division in the jamat which should not be bother by some1

Mohammed Parvez Qadir
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Subject: [sadqayyarasolallah] Re: Aqeeday ki Ahmiat (Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat ki nazer main)
 
 
 
 
Why don't you answer the previous email about this topic?
 
Why you are escaping from those. Now you are given the complete details of the emails.
 
This is the proven thing that you are escaping from all the previous topics which are related to this and you are not able to be answer.
 
 
BisMillah-ir-Rahmaan-Nir-Raheem
Dear Mian Faiz Muhammad Sb.,
Thanks for this presentation about Aqida of Ahle-Sunnat wa Jamat and the Hadith of  (72 & 73 growhs) and only one successful growh will enter Jannat and that is Ahle-Sunnat Wa Jamat.
Right,,,,, but which Ahle-Sunnat Wa Jamat???? Asli or Naqli???? Definitely you will say Asli.
Now Question to you, Just read the below Text of Tawassul of your Ahle-Sunnat Wa Jamat and let me know whether this growh is on the path of Rasool Allah ((Sallal Allaho Elaehe Wa Aalae Wa Sallam)) and Sahaba Ikram (Radhi Allaho unhum Ajmaeen) or apposite of it and included in 72 growhs that is deserved for Jahannam?? Diffinitely this is not the way of Rasool Allah ((Sallal Allaho Elaehe Wa Aalae Wa Sallam)) and Sahaba Ikram (Radhi Allaho unhum ajmaeen)
Chapter 7
Tawassul ya Qabar Parasti
Religious Leaders who Believe in Intermediation: their Experiences and Observations
It is an established fact that on account of the distinction Allah has conferred on His favourites and the blessings He has showered upon them, it has been the practice of our religious leaders and scholars to rely on them to resolve their worldly problems, attain salvation in the Hereafter, make their graves and tombs the focus of their supplications and seek help and assistance from the chosen people of Allah who are buried in them and seek their help for spiritual and inner benefits and blessings. These acts, which shaped the conduct and mode of living of the saints and the scholars in the past are now the granite foundation of the concepts and beliefs of Ahl-us-Sunnah wa al-Jamā'ah. Moreover, they had not moulded their attitudes and deeds on a superficial, unconscious or sentimental basis. A great deal of reflection and reasoning laced these modes of conduct and were framed by comprehensive experimentation, observation and practical orientation. Therefore, on the basis of investigation, and not mere sentiment, it can be affirmed that their statements were sound and authentic and on account of their immunity from doubt and ambiguity, they furnish a cogent argument for all those believers who are blessed with sufficient wisdom and intelligence to appraise the depth and truth of these statements.
Religious scholars, enlightened saints and our spiritual leaders have pronounced the tombs of these favourities of Allah as inexhaustible fountain-heads of light and blessing where our supplications are acknowledged and robed as destinies. Reliance on these sanctified persons opens the shuttered avenues of success. Their attention and response unravels the tangles of the Hereafter and their spiritual help serves as a source of salvation for our worries and all forms of distress. To cap it all, their statements are consistent with the criterion of experience and observation, which is the basis of the modern inductive method of all scientific progress. Therefore, they cannot be brushed under the carpet as mere hearsay and deserve our positive response as they are grounded in facts and proved by experience.
The above text clearly shows, that you people are only blind followers of your Scholars and not getting anything positively from Quran o Sunnah…. Your presentation of Quran o hadith is only for the others and not for by yourself, hence a deception and act of hypocrites.
(and Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'alla) knows best)
May Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'alla) give you people hidayat to Sirat-e-Mustaqeem. (Amin)
Wama Elaena Illal Balaagh
Ma'AsSalamh
KhShaikh


On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Mian Faiz Chishti <mianfaizmuhammad_chishti@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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